In this episode of ConvHERsations with Kristie, Kristie Clayton is joined by Grace Gavin, co-founder of Know Honesty, to talk about one of the most overlooked yet powerful skills in leadership and team dynamics: having truly open and honest conversations.

Grace shares how her experience implementing EOS® revealed a crucial insight—businesses often don’t fail because of the system, but because team members lack the ability to communicate with openness and honesty. She breaks down these concepts into practical, two-sided definitions: “Honesty” as being fully yourself, and “Openness” as listening without reservation. Together, they explore how curiosity, presence, and letting go of assumptions can build trust, prevent drama, and strengthen visionary-integrator partnerships.

This conversation is packed with insights for leaders, especially those in EOS® roles, who want to stop talking at each other and start actually connecting. If you’re looking to create a culture where people feel heard, valued, and empowered—this episode is your roadmap.