In this episode of ConvHERsations with Kristie, Kristie Clayton is joined by Tony Bednar, President and Integrator at Strategic Talent Partners, to unpack one of the most impactful tools for second-in-command leaders: the Integrator Continuum.

Tony shares the origin story of the continuum—how it was developed to help visionaries understand the different types of integrators based on business size, need, and leadership style. Together, they explore how the role of an integrator evolves over time, what it looks like to truly align personal passions with business needs, and how staying too long in the wrong seat can drain your energy. Kristie reflects on her own experience living on the wrong side of the continuum, and how identifying her natural strengths became a game-changer.

They also dive into how this framework applies across operating systems like EOS, Pinnacle, and Scaling Up, and why self-awareness and honest conversations are critical for both Visionaries and Integrators to thrive together.

If you've ever wondered what kind of integrator you are—or how to find the right integrator for your business—this episode is packed with insight.