The guys offer some advice to a listener who has questions about serving, leading, calling, and desire. How should someone process the church’s desire for them to lead when their desire is to not take that role? How can someone figure out where to serve when they don’t even know where to start? Plus, Joe might have been gifted a very special kind of pipe.

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