Today I am interviewing, a guy by the name of Paul Stanyer.  Paul is an incredible guy who runs an addiction recovery program called Recovery, and it's tremendously effective. As far as I understand the results are off the charts compared to other sort of comparative programs around the country and New Zealand at least. And we hear about Paul's, personal story as well as the story of others in recovery,  and the effectiveness of the recovery program. We talk about the spiritual aspect and the importance, and its role in the effectiveness of recovery.


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