For those intimidated by Canadian philosopher Charles Taylor's doorstop-sized magnum opus, A Secular Age, Smith's book functions as a helpful primer. In this episode, Nathan and Cameron discuss How (Not) to Be Secular, and consider some of the subtle ways in which many Christians begin to mirror the secular world around them, and how we might open our eyes to this insidious process.

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