Hey everyone. Welcome back to the Culture  Maker Channel. It's great to have you here. Today I am interviewing Frank Richie. Frank is a news Talk ZB radio host on Sundays at six here in New Zealand.

He's a media chaplain. And he runs a church. He's a pastor of a church. So he's a busy man. Today we talk basically around the need for men to talk to other men. I think we all  acknowledge our need for men to talk. And we just talk about that today.

It's challenging and it's encouraging and it'll help us in both our work and our family. So, let's get into it.