In this episode, Riz talks with documentary filmmaker Rodney Ascher, whose recent film is A Glitch in the Matrix. This was the first of several simulation related movies to be released this year.  They discuss the process of making the film, why it's different from other works on simulation, simulation theory and religion, the dark side of simulation theory and the Matrix defense, their favorite simulation sci fi movies, and other simulation-related topics.  If you are interested in simulation theory and films, this episode is for you!