And a few act.

Jaap Fris and Niels Moshagen are acting.

The world needs healthier soil and better, more local food.

And rather than just talk about it - like me - they’re creating it.

We set up The Good Conversation (about #regeneration) podcast as a place to learn about the regenerative movement. To learn about #food and #culture and #business and #work. Via a regenerative lens.

We’ve talked about ownership. We’ve talked about death and ending things things well. We’ve talked about waste; about shit not being shit.

And we’ve talked about Jaap and Niels setting up their farm.

They are learning about and working towards a regenerative future by living it. On the farm, with their families, creating and selling food to the local community, and breathing new life into the soil as they do. Well, they're trying to, at least.

Until then.