In this episode of the ADVANCE Podcast, Jonathan Shibley sits down with longtime friend Dr. Joel Tiemeyer, Senior Pastor of The Way Bible Church and Global Advance Senior Ambassador to Rwanda. From Joel's early days of church planting (beginning with three people in a hotel conference room) to Rwanda's inspiring changemakers, Jonathan and Joel dive into the trenches of the leadership journey. Through valley and mountaintop experiences, they highlight the significance of perseverance, consistency, finishing what you start, and God's redeeming grace that changes everything.