What does it really take to lead with creativity and courage in a system built on tradition? In this episode, Chantell sits down with educator, author, and edtech trailblazer Matt Miller to explore the mindset behind meaningful disruption, from his decision to ditch the textbook to his current work helping teachers navigate the promise and pressure of AI.

Together, they talk about what it means to lead out loud in today’s classrooms and districts, how small shifts can unlock big change, and why visibility, risk-taking, and heart still matter in a tech-driven world.

Whether you’re a teacher ready to shake things up or a district leader looking for fresh perspective, this conversation will leave you inspired to rethink what’s possible.