In this week's episode, while missing our co-host Stewart Harper, Ryan Henson speaks with Jane MacBean about her path to becoming a councillor, the importance of staying motivated and resilient during campaigning, and her desire to make legislation fit for purpose. Jane shares her thoughts on the differences between local and national campaigning, and the need to pace yourself during the busy periods. They discuss balance, vulnerability, and how to support and uplift other candidates at the same time.