What does it mean to oversee more than 35 million internally displaced and stateless peoples? Erika Feller shares her many years of experience working for the United Nations Refugee Agency and contemplates Australia's current refugee policy.

Episode recorded: 4 May 2017

Interviewer: Steve Grimwade

Producers: Dr Andi Horvath and Chris Hatzis

Audio Engineer: Arch Cuthbertson

Editor: Chris Hatzis

Production Assistant: Claudia Hooper

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