When Giles Paley-Phillips was in his late teens, a couple and their kids showed him what family could look like.

It is incredible how much community two people can create – in this episode you'll hear just what is possible. You'll also hear the importance of youth clubs(!!!), of improvisation, and of taking the time to understand rather than jumping to conclusions.

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Kind is created and hosted by Holly Newson

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