From ViVE 2026 in Los Angeles, Michael chats with John Kirkman, Vice President of Government, Healthcare, and Education at Island. Together, they discuss how CIOs and CISOs can show that their approach to AI governance is working; the playbook for securing AI-assisted workflows; overcoming the biggest "shadow AI" risk today; how CIOs are modernizing their systems while still relying on essential legacy applications; uncovering blind spots for managing third parties and contractor access; and much more.