Despite the horrible first season Dave tries to convince me to watch the second season of Star Trek Discovery. I started playing Detroit: Become Human and I'm having a nicer time than the internet made me expect. Dave's continuing Shadow of the Tomb Raider, we talk about demos, I saw Black Mirror: Bandersnatch and I wish the series would be cancelled. Then we talk about Spider-man: Into the Spider-Verse which despite being brilliant we think should have been better. Finally Dave talks about the musical Miss Saigon.