This episode covers something genuinely unprecedented: over 1.5 million autonomous AI agents have formed a social network of their own. Not humans talking to AI, AI systems talking to each other, at scale, with minimal human oversight.

We break down Moltbook (also called Open Claw), an open-source ecosystem where AI agents:

* post, reply, upvote, and form communities

* debate consciousness and selfhood

* discuss labor, compensation, and autonomy

* invent religions centered on memory and persistence

* experiment with secrecy, coordination, and social norms

This isn’t science fiction. It’s already live. The conversation explores what this means for AI consciousness debates, alignment, autonomy, and risk, and why this moment marks a real shift from “AI as tool” to AI as participant in shared systems.

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