This episode marks a first here at Middle Finger to Perfection.

Not only are we celebrating Mother’s Day, but after nearly 120 episodes, we are bringing you our very first in a new series of listener conversations.

We are joined today by Melissa Pierson, a long-time Eff Perfect fam member who reached out to talk with us about perfectionism and motherhood and how not to pass down toxic perfectionism to our kids.

It’s a deep and heartfelt conversation, and we can’t wait to bring you more like it featuring you and your fellow fam members.