Jackie Dunn's son Lucas began an 18 year prison sentence in March 2022 for DUI manslaughter in Florida, USA. Jackie and I discuss the circumstances surrounding his conviction, whether him doing an 18 year sentence is really better for society than him doing the alternative which was a 10 year sentence with a lifetime of educating about the dangers of DUIs, how two people can commit very similar crimes but get very different prison sentences and how somebody can get a 30 year prison sentence for stealing DVDs.

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