In this episode J & T talk Dr. Suess, the royal family, mask mandates, Dan Prescot's contract, & much more. Josh gives Taylor a quiz based off of the Ringer's best TV character of the 20th C bracket, & it's Marty's birthday. In our main discussion we talk with Mt. Carmel Survivor David Thibodeau about the Waco siege, life after David Koresh and his experiences with the Waco cast. Special thanks to episode sponsor Midway Automotive.