After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, abortions in the United States actually went up, in part because of a novel legal strategy that pitted blue states against red states.Pam Belluck, who covers health and science for The Times, discusses that strategy and explains how proceedings against a New York doctor could take it apart.Guest: Pam Belluck, a health and science reporter at The New York Times.Background reading: 

• The Louisiana case appears to be the first time criminal charges have been filed against an abortion provider for sending pills into a state with a ban.
• From 2024: Abortion shield laws are a new war between the states.

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