Two pilots for two juggernauts of science fiction franchises. This week, Aspen and Kenny grapple with what both franchises manage to say on their first outings. They talk about their own relationships to both Star Wars and Star Trek.

They also struggle with trying to watch these episodes without the context of 50+ years of franchise around it. And we also establish the ranking system. It's pretty great, you should listen if you want.

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Star Wars
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The Man Trap
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