In this special episode, Jamie is joined by her husband Ryan to explore the tangled roots of childhood fear and the unexpected catharsis found in horror. With the podcast’s upgraded (but still evolving) format, they unpack Ryan’s personal journey of confronting early anxieties by watching A Nightmare on Elm Street as a child. By deliberately exposing himself to a source of terror, Ryan found not only empowerment—but a lifelong passion for horror films. Together, they reflect on how fear, when faced head-on, can be transformed into fascination and even joy.