Dannie is joined by Phoebe Wynne, author of the Gothic sensation 'Madam' and her upcoming novel 'The Ruins', to chat all about her inspirations, her novels and precisely what Chris Hemsworth smells like!

You can preorder a copy of The Ruins here: The Ruins by Phoebe Wynne | Waterstones

and find Phoebe on Instagram here: Phoebe Wynne (@phoebewynnewrites) • Instagram photos and videos

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