In this special, two-part episode, Ashley and Iva introduce listeners to a completely different perspective of their cleft journeys – their mothers’. When did they find out their daughter would have a cleft? What was the most challenging part of the cleft journey for them? Is there anything they wish they’d known at the beginning? Did they grapple with any guilt? Joined by their daughters, Janet Barbour and Carolyn Ballou open up about all these topics and more.