Having been struck by a duck in the conclusion of our Da Vinci themed escape room last week, we retire to the nearest pub for a well earned drink, a chat about why Leo-D (The Big Vinci, The Renaisizzler), is such an interesting bloke, and how some of that translates in to puzzles.

We also chat immersive experiences, and turn out to be very...very squiffy.

If you haven't listened to the last episode yet hop back now! Spoilers abound!