In this episode, Mike sits down with John Borthwick.

John has been the minister at St. Andrew's Guelph for 17 years.  If you asked him about his ministry, he'd simply tell you that he feels called to the places where he believes Jesus would be found today.  His new project The Abbey, has already started shaping how churches look at hybrid ministries and other important topics of the day, so let's get into it!

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