One of the news networks recently hosted a seven-hour climate discussion. The discussion assumed that climate cataclysms are real and already devastating our planet. This assumption was not proven or discussed. The panel included ten presidential contenders who competed to make the most extravagant claims about how bad things are, and who would spend the most taxpayer money and impose the most Green New Deal rules. Mind you, these actions would restrict our freedoms and transform our energy, economy, agriculture and transportation, in the name of preventing further cataclysms. Today we talk with the author of a recent article that was titled: "Buckets of Icy Cold Reality." It appeared at Townhall, CFACT, What's Up With That?, and others. We talk with the author Paul Driessen. Included in our discussion is solar power, wind power, and fossil fuels. How dependable are each of these and what do you do when you have an intermittent source of energy. Paul Driessen is a senior policy advisor with the Committee For A Constructive Tomorrow (CFACT) and the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise. Participants: Paul Driessen, Dan Elmendorf