During the Arab immigration here in America well over 100 years ago, and into the 30's, 40's and 50's of the 20th Century, most of these Arabs were Christians and they were fleeing persecution. Christians and Jews are said to be "people of the book." We have a special status, but that does not mean equality. However for Muslims who convert to Christianity - historically, it is considered treason against the state, and some countries, such as Egypt have in their laws, the death penalty for such conversions. For people who were already Christians and were conquered, they have Dhimmitude - this is the case for the Koptic Christians. We talk about Baptism, which is a profound change of status. The Muslims tend to take Baptism far more seriously than many evangelicals do. We talk about Baptism as being a "sign and seal" of God's Covenant of grace. The Muslims literally see Baptism as a mark of treason. We grieve over the fact that our own Christian friends here in American often do not see the import of this important Sacrament. Participants: Dr. John Vance, Dan Elmendorf