How do we know anything? How do we know God? Suppose someone is not a believer, and is struggling over the person of Christ. Perhaps he has ridiculed the faith in the past. What if this person were to bring the person of Christ before his own personal judgment bar? Would he not have to lift himself up such that he is at least equal to God, or perhaps a little higher than God, in order to make a judgment concerning His existence? It was Van Til who gave us the analogy of autonomous man taking a "swipe" at God, but only being able to do that from the vantage point of sitting on his lap. Our guest directs us first, to Colossians 3:5-10, and the two different kinds of knowledge. Join us for an interesting discussion. Participants: Dr. Edd Cathey, Dan Elmendorf