Building a show that people are willing to pay for means putting in the effort up front to plan, write, and design something listeners can't easily get for free elsewhere. This level of effort isn't for the lazy, but is well rewarded by loyal fans. Writer Shruti Ravindran reveals how Paul MM Cooper built Fall of Civilizations learning along the way, and never shying away from hard work and craft.

Originally published at https://timber.fm/stories/fall-of-civilizations-podcast-feature/