Former President Donald Trump's Schedule F executive order is long-rescinded, but its supporters continue to bring up its ghost in the guise of accountability for bad federal employees. While the House-passed Preventing a Patronage System Act and a similar, though stalled, Senate plan both would work against similar policies, the threat of a patronage-style civil service system remains.

Joe Spielberger is policy counsel at the Project On Government Oversight and the author of an op-ed in the Hill headlined "Congress must protect the nation from a politicized civil service." He joined the podcast to discuss his op-ed and the future of Schedule F-style policy.

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