Mari and MD talk to Cathy and Barry, pioneers of the poly community, about self-determination, the bisexual unicorn, and how the culture at large sells toxic monogamy.
Barry and Cathy Smiler have been presenters and organizers in polyamory and related communities for many years, on both the US east and west coasts and now in Europe, and are members of the global Polyamory Leadership Network. Ex-Californians, they are former organizers of East Bay Poly in the Berkeley/Oakland area. Then while living in Maryland they led BmorePoly, which they grew to more than 3000 members and over 50 events every month making BmorePoly the largest and most active such group in the Mid-Atlantic and one of the largest in the world. Currently they are based in the Netherlands where they help organize events for Leiden Open Relationships. At the core of their approach is a belief that All This Stuff is really a reflection of everyone's right to live their own life their own way, on their own terms, and has rather more to do with connection and self-determination than with sex and number of partners. They can be reached at
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