What are Canadian prisons actually like for both prisoners and the people who work there? In this episode, Rose Marie speaks with a women named 'Maureen' who served 9 years at the Grand Valley Institute for Women after shooting her abusive partner. Rose Marie also speaks with Rosemary Redshaw, the former chaplain at Grand Valley, about her experiences working with women dealing with grief and trauma, and the institutional shifts to an increasingly closed off federal prison system.