Why don't your disciples follow our hand washing tradition? 

That's the seemingly straight-forward question the Pharisees and scribes ask Jesus in this week's lectionary text. 

But as you'll hear Sarah Stenson and Dr. Chris Croghan teach in this week's podcast episode, their question is a loaded one. 

We discuss how traditions become idols, how you can't change your heart's desires and how your heart is an indicator of your faith in this week's conversation. 

Adam, Kiri and Mason ask:

- What is a human precept? 

- What does it mean to be a creature?

- How can't I change my heart?

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