2020 is a different year comparing to 2015. Back then, refugees were welcome in many EU member states - both by people and authorities. What has changed now, and is there any way out of this deadlock? As a follow-up to our interview with Sacha Koulaeva (see below), we talked to the writer Imad Al Suliman, a Syrian refugee and a master's student at the Humboldt University in Berlin. This special episode was recorded in cooperation with Agata Michalak and with a kind support of the Bosch Alumni Network.