The New Orleans Saints are in California to continue training camp, and Times-Picayune beat writers Luke Johnson and Matthew Paras are there, too. They join host Zach Ewing to discuss Thursday's practice in California, update the quarterback competition between Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shough and preview Sunday's preseason game against the Los Angeles Chargers. • Who gets the longest look at running back? • Which receiver gets the first target? • How much will the first-team defense play? • What hints will we get at punter and kick returner?

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