Evan Shapiro (Portlandia, National Lampoon, IFC & SundanceTV) is a producer, professor, and entertainment industry guru. He joins me at the table to discuss his storied career, from his start at The Public Theater to executively producing the hit show Portlandia alongside SNL creator Lorne Michaels. We dive deep into the world of content creation, weigh the pros and cons of being a contrarian in the workplace, and discuss the importance of developing our own moral compass. Tangents include British traditions, America's fall from its pedestal, and our shared love of Ted Lasso.