The Persistence host Angélica Cordero joins musicians Seth Mowshowitz and Sam Hutchison from Fold, the band behind our theme song Don’t Kid Yourself Baby. Together, they share in an insightful conversation about the deep connections between music and history, revealing how melodies serve as powerful vessels for emotional resonance, protest, and the retelling of historical narratives. Seth opens up about navigating the world as a musician in the midst of neurodivergence, his undiagnosed autism, and the haunting legacy of the Holocaust in his family. Sam shares his journey from his move to Leeds to the influence of the UK miners' strike on his life and music. The discussion isn’t just about sound; it’s about how music can echo the rhythms of societal shifts and historical moments, weaving together the past and present. From the evolution of trip hop and down tempo to the global migrations that gave rise to these genres, the trio explores the ever-evolving cultural narratives and the universal language of music that transcends generations. Wrapping up with insights into current historical research, they remind us of the vital importance of understanding the roots that nourish the music we hear today.

This episode was produced by me, Angélica Cordero.

Our theme song is Don’t Kid Yourself Baby by Fold, used with their blessings. Podcast artwork for The Persistence features Mexican-American activist Jovita Idar and was created by Tamra Collins of Sunroot Studio.

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