This episode I interview Ed Kugler, he is a Marine scout sniper who served in Vietnam, he is also the author of multiple books. His book Dead Center (my favorite) is most of the topic for this interview. Ed is the original of a group nicknamed the Rouges, who spent most of their time on small sniper patrols in Vietnam. Ed is a Mount Rushmore for me for The Stage, it was an honor to spend a couple hours with him.

Note: this was the first interview with the new equipment and also the first done on zoom, we had a couple internet problems the first 4:30 minutes. Thank your Rickey Rodgers for producing this episode.