This week, Sara and Holly are keeping things light for the holiday with a fun Thanksgiving Q&A episode! From their favorite (and least favorite) dishes on the Thanksgiving table to some surprisingly heartfelt reflections, they cover it all. The conversation moves from silly to serious as they ask each other big questions about life, childhood, and parenting… and then attempt a lightning round, where they quickly discover they are terrible at answering lightning-round anything.

Pull up a chair, laugh along, and enjoy this cozy holiday episode.Wishing you a warm and Happy Thanksgiving! 🧡

Sara and Holly are talking today about why routine and ritual are both important. But while routine is the structure that holds our daily lives, ritual is the spirit that makes life rich. They dig into some small rituals they have embraced to make their days more meaningful (and to show up better for the people in their lives), how you can take a routine you already don’t hate and turn it into a ritual, and also why they’ll never tell you to say “I GET to do the dishes,” because dishes are always annoying.

Resources we mentioned:

Greenlights, Matthew McConaughey

Atomic Habits, James Clear

VegOut, “8 beauty routines Boomers used that were natural long before “clean beauty”

Liturgy of the Ordinary, Tish Harrison Warren

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Holly and Sara talk about the start of holiday wish lists and wonder if Amazon is creating expectations that are too high for “the perfect thing at the perfect price,” especially when it comes to Sara’s search for a couch. They also dig deep on what purpose looks like (for real) in mid-life and beyond, including the concept of “big P” and “little P” purpose, Eric Erickson’s Stages of Development (Sara’s favorite psycho-social developmental analyst), Enneagram wings, and what you can do to kick-start your own purpose excavation (for both you and your kids).

Resources/ things we talked about:

Richard Rohr, Falling Upward: A Spirituality for Two Halves of Life

Eric Erickson’s Stages of Development

Nikki Erlick, The Measure

Sara and Holly talk about Sara’s new tips for “southern coffee” and Holly’s (unexpected) reimagining of Halloween this year. They dig deep on Brian McLaren’s Four Stages of Faith Development from his book Faith After Doubt, and why they think the concept of doubt might just be what’s missing from religion - and one of the most important things we can do in order to strengthen our faith.

Books and other things we referenced:

Faith after Doubt, Brian McLaren

Soul Boom Podcast - Is Society Losing its Soul? With Nadia Bolz-Weber

The Bible Says So, Dan McClellan

NIV Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible

Awake, Jen Hatmaker

Sara and Holly talk about Holly’s celeb sighting over the weekend and how Gen Z parents are rejecting prescribed parenting approaches. They dig deeper on the Enneagram, giving listeners an overview of each number and it has helped each of them grow as individuals and within their most important relationships.

Random things we talk about:

The Tyler Merritt Project

The Parenting Trend Gen Z Is Leaving Behind

More Enneagram resources:

The Road Back to You - Suzanne Stabile and Ian Morgan Cron

The Wisdom of the Enneagram - Russ Hudson and Don Richard Riso

Podcast - Why You Are the Way You Are (We Can Do Hard Things 1 of 2)

Podcast - Fix Your Most Important Relationships (We Can Do Hard Things 2 of 2)

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Sara and Holly are talking today about Sara’s 6th grade yearbook and the evolution behind menopause. They are also digging deeper on why its important to personalize your relationship with spirituality, ask questions, and get curious about what helps you connect to something bigger.

This week, Sara and Holly are back in Holly's closet talking about gender norms and stereotypes, raising boys, and a Shakespeare conspiracy theory. We dig deep on how we’re wired to crave community and how we get it wrong, and also the importance of finding your Zone of Genius and using it to create more and consume less.

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And we’re live! Sara and Holly introduce themselves, tell listeners what to expect from this podcast, and officially kick off the A Third Place community.