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In this heart-wrenching episode, Carling and Barb engage in a deeply personal conversation as Barb bravely shares her story of unimaginable loss. Barb opens up about the heartbreaking experience of losing her beloved daughter at the young age of 13, leaving her world shattered and forever changed. 

But amidst the pain, there arises a longing that refuses to be ignored—the undeniable pull to have another child, even in her fifties. 

Barb's resilience and determination to navigate this complex path will leave you in awe. Her courage to confront grief head-on and seek hope in the face of adversity is truly inspiring. 

Tune in to this powerful episode to witness the strength of the human spirit and the capacity for love to transcend all boundaries. 

You can find Barb at www.atinythousandsteps.com and on IG @barb_444 and on her podcast "A Thousand Tiny Steps"

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