In this episode Caroline and Liz explain what Lucy Letby said at the conclusion of her cross-examination. They discuss the prosecution claims that she was out on the razzle, drinking with colleagues in the months before her arrest. And how it’s alleged that she’s a calculated murderer who killed babies for attention and sympathy.
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Episode 40: ‘A very calculating woman’

Lucy Letby is a child killer. Last year she was convicted of murdering seven babies and trying to murder six more while working as a neo-natal nurse at the Countess of Chester Hospital, in the NW of England and was sentenced to spend her life in jail.
She is now back in court to face a retrial on one charge the jury could not reach a verdict on - the alleged Attempted Murder of a premature baby girl, known as Baby K.
Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham.
In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts.
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True crime

In this episode Caroline and Liz bring you the evidence of Lucy Letby in her own words and detail what she told the jury over two days in the witness box.  She insisted she does not remember the alleged attack on Baby K, or accept that what Dr Ravi Jayaram says he saw actually happened.  She also denied ‘looking for grief’ when she searched for the names of parents of babies she killed or harmed on Facebook years after they died.  Lucy Letby denies attempting to murder Baby K who was a tiny baby girl born 15 weeks early.  Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I Am Not Guilty

In this episode Caroline and Liz have seen, for the first time, the videos of Lucy Letby facing questions from detectives.  In three separate video clips shown to the jury, Lucy Letby denied dislodging Baby K’s breathing tube and she said she could not remember Baby K collapsing. She also told officers the unit could not cope with the number of babies and Baby K was so premature she would have needed one to one care.    Lucy Letby denies attempting to murder Baby K who was a tiny baby girl born 15 weeks early.  Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Questioned on Camera

In this episode Caroline and Liz have the evidence of Dr Ravi Jayaram who told the jury he caught Lucy Letby “virtually red handed” as she allegedly attempted to kill Baby K. He says he walked into Nursery 1 to find the baby collapsing, but the alarms on the ventilator were not sounding and Lucy Letby was standing nearby doing nothing. He said today that he didn’t call the police because he feared retribution from hospital managers.  The jury have already been told that Dr Jayaram is the key witness in the case and their verdict will ultimately depend on whether they believe him or not.  Lucy Letby denies attempting to murder Baby K who was a tiny baby girl born 15 weeks early.  Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Key Witness

In this episode Caroline and Liz hear the Mum’s Story. That’s Baby K’s mum who told the jury not just about the short four-day life of her daughter, but also of her excitement when she first found out she was pregnant.  She also told the court how she and her husband took pictures with their daughter – just half an hour after nurse Lucy Letby allegedly tried to kill her. Lucy Letby denies the charge and her defence barrister has already told the court Baby K was so premature that she was clinically fragile. Both the prosecution and the defence barristers say the evidence of the consultant who claims he caught Lucy Letby “virtually red handed” will be the key to the case. Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Mum's Story

In this episode Caroline and Liz are back at Manchester Crown Court as neo-natal nurse Lucy Letby returns to the dock. This time she is facing one charge – the attempted murder of a very premature baby girl, known as Baby K. Today, as the trial got underway, the jury were told she was caught “virtually red handed” by a consultant as she tried to dislodge the breathing tube of Baby K in an attempt to kill her. She then allegedly dislodged the tube twice more to cover her tracks.  The jury were told Lucy Letby is a convicted baby killer and her previous convictions were relevant to the charge she now faces. She denies the charge and her defence barrister told the court Baby K was so premature that she was clinically fragile. Both the prosecution and the defence barristers told the jury they ultimately had to decide if they believed the consultant who claims he caught her in the act. Follow the trial's evidence just as the jury do, with twice-weekly reports from Daily Mail northern correspondent Liz Hull and broadcast journalist Caroline Cheetham. In this podcast, they bring you far more detail about what the jury heard, examine key moments of the trial, and conduct exclusive interviews with investigative detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode 40: ‘A very calculating woman’

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