This week, the show gets meta. Julia talks with Executive Producer of podcasts LAist Studios Antonia Cereijido about the landscape of the podcasting space and how it intersects with the labor movement. She's the best.

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Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire

Producer: Genevieve Gearity

Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett

Artwork: Adrienne Lobl