This was a fun one! Gabe turned the tables on me and interviewed me for his Youtube series, "A White Belt Experience".

We run the gamut of talking about my journey to ADCC Trials round of 16, how I've conceptualized and learned Jiu-Jitsu, how I relate it to Software Development, and of course my favorite buzzword: Ecological Jiu-Jitsu.

Gabe's Youtube channel can be found at https://www.youtube.com/@GiftWrapGabe

Gabe can be found on instagram @3rounddesign

This episode was sponsored by @ikuzoathletics, check them out for clean, simple rashies and shorts. 

Ikuzo… “let’s go!”  https://www.ikuzoathletics.com/