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In this episode of No Jerks Allowed: Real Talk on Leadership, Stephanie Licata talks with leadership advisor and organizational designer Chelsea Lewis about how leaders can navigate “wicked messes,” complex challenges with no clear definition, easy answer, or clean finish line.

Together, they explore why traditional top-down leadership often falls short in chaos, how capable leaders can become the unofficial 911 department, and why real communication requires more than email. This conversation offers practical insight for leaders trying to create clarity, stability, and trust when the path forward is anything but simple.

Host: Stephanie Licata, M.A. A.C.C. | Learning & Leadership Consultant 

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Guest: Chelsea Lewis, PMP | Founder & Principal Advisor at Loomrise Advisory

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