To close out 2025, I'm happy to share this conversation with Alexis Rife, a colleague & friend whose insights I've long appreciated through her work with fisheries and in facilitation. She shares wonderful thoughts on systems change, relationship building, and what we as individuals can strive to do - and how conservation needs more of us to be willing to do something different. Thanks for being with me, and I'll be back in February 2026!

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