A 10 year old girl in 5th grade, was ambushed by her parents when she returned from camp and dragged to therapy. As you can imagine, it didn’t go well. She explains why that experience was so jarring and what specifically she didn’t like. Even after that less ideal introduction to therapy, she decided to give it another try – this time on her own terms. Find out why she loves her therapist and get some solid advice from her about what therapists can do to better serve clients like her.

A 10 year old girl's search for a nice therapist.

"Say More About That" is a podcast that is focused on mental health issues, with the goal of making therapy more approachable and less stigmatized. "Say More About That" will educate listeners on how therapy really works. There are tons of strange and quirky things about being a therapist or receiving therapy and we're going to talk about all those things on this podcast. Sometimes we'll laugh at the counseling profession and how bizarre it is. And other times we'll be super serious and talk about how powerful and important counseling can be. 

On "Say More About That" we'll sometimes talk to clients about their up and down journey receiving therapy. But we'll mostly bring in experts in the field to dissect aspects of therapy and mental health that don't get enough attention. 

Show notes at therapyden.com/saymoreaboutthat

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Today's episode is a candid and vulnerable one for me. Recently my wife and I decided to end our marriage. The couple months leading up to that decision were filled with emotional ups and downs. I wanted to bring on a close friend, Heidi Savell, who's been through similar stuff, and talk about what it's like to be a counselor while feeling emotionally upset and mentally preoccupied. We talk about how I've handled it so far, what I could have done better, how hard it can be to be present for your clients when you're not feeling grounded and much more.

Getting a divorce while being a therapist

Jeff and Dr. Peter Addy talk about psychedelic integrative therapy. Dr. Addy has a long history in researching the effect of psychedelics. They discuss what psychedelic integrative therapy is and why someone would want to use psychedelics (LSD, Mushrooms, MDMA) in a therapeutic environment. Jeff asks Dr. Addy if it's true that people can get the benefits of 10 years of therapy in one session. They talk about common experiences people have and the powerful healing effects that can occur. Psychedelic therapy is picking up a lot of steam these days and could be the next big development in psychology.

Psychology of the future: Psychedelic integrative therapy.

Alana, a self-described fat, black femme in her 30’s received some strong messages about therapy as a middle-schooler. She was told that therapy is for white people and black people go to church. In college, she was an activist who tried her best to create more diversity at the campus counseling center. Later in life she and her spouse decided to open their relationship. She was looking for a therapist that was sex positive, poly competent, anti-racist and body positive.

Alana, a self-described fat, black femme in her 30’s searches for a competent therapist

Here is a statement that should be incredibly non-controversial: All online therapist directories that allow potential clients to filter therapists by gender should include at least three gender options. They should be “Trans/Non-binary”, “Female” and “Male”.

The leading online therapist directory, Psychology Today, does not allow people to filter for therapists that are trans or non-binary. That needs to change. 

Sign the petition: http://chng.it/MW9SyYrhQj

Sign the Petition: Psychology Today Needs to Add Trans/Non-binary as a third gender option

Jess, a woman who decided to open her relationship while going to counseling, had to decide if she wanted to continue therapy with her current counselor who was critical of her relationship choices, or if she should find a therapist who was more open, trained and non-judgmental of her poly relationship. Jess, and guest host Heidi Savell, talk about what to look for when seeking a therapist who provides counseling to poly folks. They define some common terms and used in the poly community.

A 10 year old girl's search for a nice therapist.

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