Josh Stothers and Jesse Herford from the Burn the Haystack podcast to talk about the differences in Adventism from America and New Zealand, then we talk about ministry, leading churches at the beginning of our careers, and setting boundaries as leaders. I am super grateful for these guys and all they are doing, check out their podcast below!

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