In this episode AADL Talks to Michael Kondziolka. Michael, who retired in 2023, served for 30 years as the director of artistic programming and production for the University Musical Society. Michael talks with us about the thrill of bringing performers to Ann Arbor; how he and the UMS team responded to the changes and challenges of the late 1990s and how he helped reshape UMS’s aesthetic and took programming in different directions.