Abby and I talk about Sparo, Wing, COPD, asthma, Wash U STL, biomedical engineering, helping people is at its core, engineers without borders, breathing is really important, mouse but more space ship-py, take flight fro respiratory conditions, chronic bronchitis and emphysema, oxygen tanks, breathing classes, online pulmonary rehabilitation program, don't vape, where does the term popcorn lung come from, weird connection between St. Louis and Cranbrook and the surface area of lungs.